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Democrats put Kreitlow on state Building Commission



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By JASON STEIN
Lee Newspapers
Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:07 PM CST

MADISON – After an unprecedented run of nearly four decades, state Sen. Fred Risser, D-Madison, is being tossed off the influential commission that oversees state buildings — and he’s not happy about it.

Risser, 81, is the nation’s longest serving state lawmaker and has served on the state Building Commission since 1969 — a key post for his Madison constituents because it oversees projects ranging from construction on the UW-Madison campus to renovations in and around the Capitol.

Senate Majority Leader Russ Decker, D-Weston, announced late Monday that Risser would leave the commission in January 2010 and be replaced by Sen. Pat Kreitlow, D-Chippewa Falls.

In a statement released by an aide, Risser said the change had not been voluntary.

“It was not my choice and I would have preferred to stay on for another two years,” he said.

Aides to Risser declined to answer other questions.

Decker spokeswoman Carrie Lynch said that an initial statement she made Monday that Risser had graciously stepped aside had not been meant to imply that he had offered to do so.

“He’s been on it for 40 years and it was time to let somebody else get experience on this commission,” Lynch said.

Risser and Decker were at odds last session over Risser’s unsuccessful push to enact a statewide smoking ban that includes bars and restaurants. Risser has said he intends to seek the ban again in the next session.


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correctthinking wrote on Dec 1, 2008 8:47 PM:

" I can do it, I won't do it for you, or any other blogger on this post. The public won't get involved if the answers are just handed to them...if anything, I hope to get people more involved with their government...and I will agree with you on one point, the U of M is a great school "

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J. Davis wrote on Nov 30, 2008 1:27 PM:

" Never once did I say that I dislike Senator Kreitlow or any of his policies, nor have I ever stated I could do a better job. I am only asking for you to answer a question that was asked by a different blogger. You can not do that, end of story. Make any lame excuses or tell me to look myself but that only reinforces the fact that you CAN NOT DO IT! On a side note, running for elected office does not have any effect on my first amendment rights to run my mouth. You with a bachelor's degree in political science with a 3.85 GPA should know that. Have a Day! "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 30, 2008 10:17 AM:

" Whoopidy-doo? One of your degrees must have been for creative writing! My guy HAS created JOBS in Chippewa Falls and the area. YOU are too LAZY to find out what and where they are, so you rely on the knowledge of others to do YOUR work for YOU. Since you are SO against Kreitlow, I can then count on YOU to acquire an EB-1 form from the Government Accountability Board, and officially file as a candidate to run against HIM, RIGHT? You don't like his leadership, RUN AGAINST HIM. If not, you give up your right to run your mouth. "

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J. Davis wrote on Nov 30, 2008 7:40 AM:

" Whoopitdy-doo you have a peice of paper framed on your wall, while I do too. In fact two of them, both from the great U of M. you can do the research and find out what they are for. Even with that you still can not answer the simple question because there is NO ANSWER. Your guy has done NOTHING for this area. NOTHING. If you did not agree with this you would be more then willing to post every acomplishment he has made but you wont because you CANT! Have a day! "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 29, 2008 12:58 PM:

" Well, let's see, I have a bachelor's degree in political science, and I graduated with a 3.85 GPA, so I must know something, like not giving freebies to those who demand proof when the answer is right in front of them. Whine all you want, you'll get nothing from me. "

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J. Davis wrote on Nov 28, 2008 11:59 PM:

" Settle!! Are you going to take your ball and go home too? I just think it is comical how you have turned a simple question into a dodgeball game, complete with name calling. I am happy you think you know the answer but are just "unwilling" to share it. You must have gone far in school. "no teacher I know all of the answers to the test but i am not telling you!" Keep dodging the questions! "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 28, 2008 7:05 PM:

" Again, I know the answer, I know how many jobs, and I'm not telling you, you will get the answer to this question by yourself. Your continued diatribe that I'm "phony" and "I don't know the answer" is crap. I do, I DO NOT have to prove anything to you or anybody, ANYBODY on this post!! I wouldn't be wasting my time responsing to your foolishness every 6 hours. GET YOUR OWN ANSWERS, BE A RESPONSIBLE CITIZEN AND LEARN SOMETHING. "

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J. Davis wrote on Nov 28, 2008 9:06 AM:

" Its only a 4 cyl. but there you go tossing personal insults so you dont have to answer the question. The more you try to hide the answer the more phony you look! It was a simple question that you were unable to answer, just admit it and move on. You sit and defend him without posting the facts makes it seem like the facts are not to your liking! "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 28, 2008 8:24 AM:

" JDavis: Your brain isn't hittin' on all 8 spark plugs, is it? I DON'T HAVE TO DEFEND KREITLOW, KREITLOW DEFENDS HIS RECORD, NOT ME. I kn ow how many jobs he's brought here, everyone, except YOU, who is too dense to find out for himself knows the answers. All I'm asking is that you, and everyone else, pay attention to all their elected representatives and get the answers straight from those people. Have I made myself clear? "

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J. Davis wrote on Nov 27, 2008 8:32 PM:

" Why do you get so worked up when you dont have the answers to simple questions? I am not questioning your manhood here, although it is a thought, I am just asking you to defend your man! Obviously you CAN'T do that or you would have and obviously you are confidant in yourself because you need to demean others who do not agree with you. NIMBY!! "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 27, 2008 7:59 PM:

" NO...Bottom Line: Get the answers for yourself and stop making other people do your work and your responsibility for you. If the misguided NIMBY's that think they can stop the sand plant would do their homework, the permits would have already been done and the city would not be divided. Get a clue and be responsible for once instead of running your keyboard in this forum!!!! "

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J. Davis wrote on Nov 27, 2008 12:10 PM:

" So, bottom line.....you dont have an answer! "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 27, 2008 10:32 AM:

" J.Davis: I'm not tap dancing around anything. I do know the answer, and no, I'm not going to tell you. Why? To get you and everyone else that whines in this forum to be responsible and engage themselves. Every citizen must know what every elected official is doing 24/7/365. Every decision made at the local, county and state level will have a direct impact. I'm not embarrased about the answer, don't like what your politican is doing, tell them, not me. My professional job is to have the answers for the people that pay my salary, not to give free advice to those who would not find said answers on their own and instead, try to advance their own walkbehinder agenda. "

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J. Davis wrote on Nov 26, 2008 6:02 PM:

" Keep tap dancing and never give the answer, that is the true mark of a politician. Yes, I could do some research and find the answer but if you want people to be on your side you must give them the answers when they ask. Even though the answers may be easy to find myself, on the surface your inability to just list them leaves many questions unanswered. Do you really have the answer? Are you hiding something? Are you embarrassed of the true answer? And on and on. In my opinion a person not willing to answer the question is the same as one who does not know the answer. "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 26, 2008 1:25 PM:

" michael: I'm not sidestepping or insulting anyone, least of all you. You want proof of jobs, I have over and over again told you where to find the proof for yourself, yet you continue to refuse to find the answers for yourself, and instead rely on others to do your work for you. This publication has done an excellent job of highlighting those jobs, maybe a stroll thru this paper's archives will provide the answers you seek. And before you even say it, yes I do know, and no, I'm not telling you. "

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michael wrote on Nov 26, 2008 12:08 PM:

" Correctthinking,

I am curious as to why you are avoiding the basic question that was asked days ago and you continue to sidestep. Is it to complex for you to come up with any jobs that Senator Kreitlow has brought to Chippewa Falls? All of this distortions that you post on here proves that you can not name any. Your case may be more valued if you provide facts, but instead you choose to insult citizens of the Chippewa Valley. "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 26, 2008 9:06 AM:

" you are right, paragon, you shouldn't get involved in things you know nothing about. You don't know me, and likely never will. I know what Pat has done for the city and the district, I have worked in this business for over 30 years, because you and the other two walkbehinders choose to wag your tongues and demand this and that. Educate yourself, don't expect me to do it for you, go to Pat's website, read the Herald, know what's going on. If you can't manage that, maybe you can join the NIMBY's that are trying to stop the sand plant, which the DNR says is SAFE. "

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paragon wrote on Nov 25, 2008 1:07 PM:

" I hate to get involved in others' business, but this "correctthinking" clown should start backing words with facts (as he seems to know all anyway). Furthermore, if he is an elected official, he should be ashamed of how he is representing the very people who voted him in. My guess is that he was fired from McDonalds for inappropriate actions and now is looking to shovel sand. Maybe they can give him a broom as well? "

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michael wrote on Nov 25, 2008 12:30 PM:

" Correctthinking,

I would think that someone who claims to work with Senator Kreitlow this would be a cake walk. But you seem to be frazzled with this effortless task. "

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J. Davis wrote on Nov 25, 2008 6:30 AM:

" Name calling only shows you are weak on your position. If you truly had information to back up your statements you would put them here to scilence us. Since the best you can do is use childish insults I will assume you have no standing on this topic. If what we are doing is posting "blog biomass" then PROVE US WRONG! Post contrary information that will prove thet you have more to say then a small child. "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 24, 2008 8:19 PM:

" I'm not struggling with anything, junior. I'm not on Kreitlow's staff, and since neither of you seem to know how to read a website, pick up a phone, or personally engage the Senator in conversation, you then seek to discredit him by a running pile of blog biomass. I work with Pat and I know what he has done, and what he will continue to do for the 23rd District. It's a new day, and a new ballgame, and you had better adapt to the new surroundings, or you and the rest of the NIMBY's and blog whiners are going to be mired in a position you appear to be comfortable with: walkbehinder. "

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J. Davis wrote on Nov 24, 2008 5:20 PM:

" Whether he believes you or not I think you should put something down to prove your point. I could say I walked on Mars and give you various supposed reliable sites to reference or I could show you the pictures, which would you believe? Just give him a list of three. While this "printed volley" will not create jobs it may open peoples eyes to what is going on and perhaps change their views. "

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michael wrote on Nov 24, 2008 4:39 PM:

" Correctthinking

Im not asking for much, a simple task that you seem to be struggling with. "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 24, 2008 1:35 PM:

" j. davis: mikee would not believe me no matter what I said, suffice to say, this printed volley sure won't create any jobs around here, and with people that fight any attempt to bring any jobs to the city, more time is spent silencing the lies and rumors more than actual job creation. Michael is clearly not happy here, therefore he should perhaps find a Democratic nirvana where the successful can be taxed out of their socks, and the complainers can live in peace and tranquility. "

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j. davis wrote on Nov 24, 2008 7:18 AM:

" Don't dodge the question, just give a list of jobs created and that will shut him up! "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 22, 2008 8:19 AM:

" mikee: why don't you go to his website and learn for yourself, or better yet, try engaging him in conversation. I know I'm probably going well over your head on this, but, as your elected official, whether you voted for him or not (I'm guessing you didn't), as a responsible citizen it is your responsibility to have contact with your elected representatives and ask these questions for yourself. It is far more effective than crying and whining in this forum. "

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michael wrote on Nov 21, 2008 12:34 PM:

" Correctthinking,

I am still waiting for you to inform me of all the jobs that Senator Kreitlow has brought to the Chippewa Falls area. "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 21, 2008 12:13 PM:

" mikee: I did not say that I was not currently an elected official, again you are choosing words without facts. And who said anything about raising taxes on anything? At issue is jobs coming to Chippewa Falls, which a group of uninformed twits are trying to stop, every job is at a premium. Kreitlow and our other legislators know this, and are working to keep taxes as low as possible. Maybe you should go up north and talk to Senator Jauch who wants to impose a 10% surcharge on individual income taxes. "

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michael wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:53 AM:

" Correctthinking,

Since you are such a experienced job architect, and according to you I must be a naive common man. Please share in your knowledge as to how jobs are created by raising the taxes on the companies that create jobs. I would dispute that the additional taxes would take away from their cash flow and impede job expansion. Also, higher taxes on goods, services, and expense only add to the bottom line that consumers pay. The end result would be fewer jobs and higher prices. Do you actually believe that if businesses that employ America have their taxes raised they dont add it to their bottom line and the consumer ends up paying for it? If that is your way of thinking, I fully understand why you are no longer an elected official "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 21, 2008 9:12 AM:

" michael, leave the politics to those of us who know how it works, have been elected to office, who have created jobs, who have exported products, who have inported products, and who have improved the quality of life here, and who will continue to stop foot stomping whiners who try to stop progress and feel the need to puke on anything anyone else does. "

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michael wrote on Nov 20, 2008 3:07 PM:

" The Truth,

Name calling is what you have downgraded your argument too, no surprise. Your argument began with all the jobs that Senator Kreitlow has produced and you have not provided any. You then started complaining about someone who is no longer an elected official and I explained clearly what jobs were created when Senator Zien was in office. You ignore pure facts. "

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The Truth wrote on Nov 20, 2008 2:30 PM:

" Michael,

Stop drinking the kool-aid and begin some serious thinking instead of playing politics. You and your ilk are the main reason why this country is in bad shape. Your party lost power due to ignorance, arrogance and corruption. Republicans are not entitled to power they must earn it just like everyone else. This time you lost. It's time you grew up and started to act like a responsible human being and work toward solving problems instead of acting like your toys were taken away from you. "

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michael wrote on Nov 20, 2008 11:36 AM:

" The Truth (The Confused)

Ever hear of something called the Stanley Prison. Or have you forgotten the Democrats in Madison that attempted to block the opening that created hundreds of jobs. No thanks to Chuck Chvala or have you forgotten about this disgraced politician who plead guilty to extortion? Ironically, Zien created State Union jobs and recently the Democrats have taken away over 4,000 in the past year. Zien also co authored the Wisconsin rural "JOBZ" act that helped in creation of jobs. "

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The Truth wrote on Nov 20, 2008 10:31 AM:

" So Michael, what did Dave Zein do in his many years in the legislature besides embarrass the district.

1. Concealed Weapons - failed
2. Concealed Weapons - failed
3. Concealed Weapons - failed
4. Creationsim - failed
5 - 100 nothing to help the district. "

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michael wrote on Nov 20, 2008 9:14 AM:

" Correctthinking,

Why is our state unemployment going up? What job(s) has Kreitlow brought to the Chippewa Valley? The only jobs that I can think of would be that of his staff in Madison. The sand mining company is trying to bring more jobs to this area than Kreitlow has and a few knuckleheads in Chippewa Falls are trying to stop it. For the record, government does not create jobs the private sector does. "

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doesthatwork4u wrote on Nov 19, 2008 6:33 PM:

" Jobs?
Jobs?
Jobs?
Oh you mean J O B s - haven't seen those created by a polititian YET. And the tax climate in THIS state won't create anything but more state-dependent people ... oh yeah, and business police to remove private owners' rights (say isn't THAT a job - smoking police?) "

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correctthinking wrote on Nov 19, 2008 5:25 PM:

" michael, I can handle that one, actually all three:
1. JOBS
2. JOBS
3. JOBS

and with Senator Kreitlow not only as President Pro Tempore of the Senate, but on a number of committees, leadership is FINALLY in the Chippewa Valley, and away from Madison, Milwaukee and the Fox Valley. Uh, michael, maybe you would be happier in Madison, where not having facts is what got us into the mess we are all in now. "

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michael wrote on Nov 19, 2008 3:54 PM:

" Let me be the first to congratulate Senator Kreitlow on his new appointment and list his accomplishments that he has done for the Chippewa Valley since taking office.

1.
2.
3.

Uh Senator, you may want to think about giving your seat up here and running in a district that you support. May I suggest Madison? "

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